Feb. 6, 2026
The Last Good Year (GT Mini)
A cultural resurgence looks back on 2016.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last good year, I'm Jason Horton, I'm Rebecca Leib, and this is Ghost Town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, we're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are our new Friday episodes, and we're introducing you to them right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a video component.
00:29.478 --> 00:30.099
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't checked, and we don't know when they'll be up, but they'll be on our Instagram and TikTok, which is ghost town pod.
00:40.391 --> 00:48.280
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't followed us there, you want to see art faces and bodies or just faces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or it's mostly just phases.
00:49.662 --> 00:50.963
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, we're nothing for any of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we will, you're getting it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But head on over to our Instagram and TikTok at Ghost Town Pod, and you can see us talking about this that you're hearing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably won't look at myself, or it will become not fun for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll be constructively, maybe the fall in love with yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe all over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When did I ever?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is my relationship to self?
01:20.280 --> 01:22.222
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is fun because we can talk about new things.
01:22.343 --> 01:30.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, we love talking about these pieces of strange history and culture, but it's nice to kind of get some new takes and things that people are watching.
01:30.093 --> 01:32.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Things are in the zeitgeist right now.
01:32.476 --> 01:35.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if that word means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really I don't I think I do but then I don't and also what is fracking fracking is bad no fracking right that's how it knows it's no fracking it's no fracking it's bad bad fracking and it's good yeah but can we be can we say guys thing
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are like right now is like guys, okay, we're in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cultural land like the zeitgeist is like the cultural landscape Right, it's in the the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're in that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're very we're fracking in the zeitgeist Oh, that's bad Fuck fracking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're saying fuck in this thing Yeah, I guess so we're now we are now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not safe for work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll talk about topics that are where we've been dealing with in the internet culture, you know, TV culture, historic stuff that maybe we've talked about before and that there are new pieces too.
02:34.151 --> 02:35.853
[SPEAKER_01]: There's always nostalgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always things bubbling up to the surface and people are discovering and rediscovering and we can always, and we're also probably reminded about a lot of things too and we can talk about that.
02:46.165 --> 02:47.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like a little, a little true crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all here on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So today, though, I have to talk about something that has been on my feed near constantly, the last good year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know the last good year 2016 nostalgia,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm familiar with it and what, when I think, you know, I love years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love hearing a year and being like, oh, what do I think about this year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're your head, you're a big year head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2016 for me, I was, it was probably, I was on the tail end of my kind of YouTube life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So 2016 is probably the lead, like, is the year that that started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hitting a downturn and probably when my like improv comedy career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I call it a career was also all darker than like the election.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was in a lot of ways like the end of like a cycle for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize it until like 2016 ended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is whatever I'm doing is on its way out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was also the dawn of ghost town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The year after, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We sort of 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was of 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two years before the dawn of ghost town because I don't work because it was 2016 was a big and I was in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like maybe we were talking about the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very early stages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pre-productive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like late stage capitalism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's late to say that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want fracking in late-stage capitalism is in the zeitgeist for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I've had an aneurysm right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know 2016 I was like limping that last like death throws of a bad relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in New York coming back to LA, you know like feeling like shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell between my legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where were you improv wise because that's what I care about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, let's make sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just standing here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting paid to do stand up and you were crazy and then it all stuff and I was like, I have no reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't make it in New York making $400 a week doing stand up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I made $50 doing stand up and I went, I went four hours each way to make that $50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to, when I say, doing stand up in New York, I mean, doing stand up in Philly, okay, and New Jersey, and like the external realms of New York City, so not even like, you know, a club in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it was a beautiful time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Politically not great a lot of things are happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I see this trend on I'm like what the I was just like fuck all like honestly This is like the slap that I'm like I don't want to see your like blur reef at least if I'm gonna see a blurry photo It should be like 98 like don't give me 2016.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very in your like long You know like the trends were not cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like not a cute time
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we take for granted like technology as far as like photos on phones and it's like that how much better it's gotten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes, so many things have gotten worse, but when you take a picture in your phone with 2016, you're like, oh, how good is this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't realize how bad it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we take photos with our phones now, which is as best as it's ever been, in a year, two years like, oh, remember those, remember those 20, 26 photos we took?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of crazy to think about 10 years going by and how we capture things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, how people re-share them, mostly on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, when somebody shows a Facebook memory and it's always as horrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there was one that I had, and this is probably around 2016,
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm good ramen, it's the blur.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a big Hollywood big me big things coming no things turns out no things coming no no It's like oh my god the song you're sure a lot of additions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah When you're a lot of like meetings or like funny things like think or funny and they're not they're not funny It's like crazy if you're if you're not lame Yeah, see slim Ricky my improbrew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I West Mainstay
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I it was so important and I said and I was trying to be so Who cares, but I was like I cared so much and it oozed out like the not caring back then was I care It was that's the thing I get what the 2016 last good year is so like
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[SPEAKER_00]: powerful to us because it was like this, you know, political like before this whole new era and like how fraud it's been But it's also like it's so earnest in a way where I'm just like all was that even me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't even know that was the right same person was that even my year to have?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the year law law land came out, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a great, I mean, it's one of my favorite movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw this in a yet, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think it will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime I get a chance to mention law law land to Rebecca, I will mention it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will use 2016.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, oh, in 2016, I was in Zurich, Switzerland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry not sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, are we back in time?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how that's how that's how the tail end of doing cool things I was because that's the that was the end of that era for me Like getting to travel and stuff for like YouTube and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean Was it a time full of hope perhaps and travel for you not so much for me because I was broke because I was just doing stand-up and living off of unemployment in New York City
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess there's a, I have a T to it, there's like, you know, a fun, listen, there's a lot of bad things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Pokemon Go was happening then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brexit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a Syrian war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All good things, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poke mine go definitely fits in that world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people wandering around the streets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was safe to wander around the streets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Head buried in your phone playing Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, my brother still plays Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, is that saying something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That nostalgia sloppin' up for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that an obsession for this year that will remain unquenched?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is going away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This trend is leaving us now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see as many anymore, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think mostly people when they do that, they want to, it's kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look how much better is now for me, or look at me then, or look at me now, and it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's better than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people are like, we're so nostalgia upset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look at this podcast, for example, an nostalgia obsessed that will do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even in a year where it's like, oh, it's an election year, which I think a lot of people collectively remember more powerfully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, and I think this is kind of why this trend isn't like, hey, 2017 or, you know, 2015 or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that we want so badly to romanticize, literally anything about our lives, and now we have the photo, you know, we have all these shitty ramen photographs to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And 2017 is great because that was one year after La La Land came close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, and a year and a half before we started this with podcasts, you know that now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No way we started this podcast, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all a blur.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last good year, I'm Jason Horton, I'm Rebecca Leib, and this is Ghost Town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, we're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Friday.
00:22.270 --> 00:26.295
[SPEAKER_00]: These are our new Friday episodes, and we're introducing you to them right now.
00:27.016 --> 00:28.838
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a video component.
00:29.478 --> 00:30.099
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like that?
00:30.219 --> 00:40.331
[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't checked, and we don't know when they'll be up, but they'll be on our Instagram and TikTok, which is ghost town pod.
00:40.391 --> 00:48.280
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't followed us there, you want to see art faces and bodies or just faces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or it's mostly just phases.
00:49.662 --> 00:50.963
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, we're nothing for any of this.
00:51.003 --> 00:52.365
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we will, you're getting it.
00:52.886 --> 01:00.815
[SPEAKER_01]: But head on over to our Instagram and TikTok at Ghost Town Pod, and you can see us talking about this that you're hearing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably won't look at myself, or it will become not fun for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll be constructively, maybe the fall in love with yourself.
01:13.771 --> 01:14.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe all over again.
01:14.752 --> 01:16.174
[SPEAKER_00]: When did I ever?
01:16.154 --> 01:19.338
[SPEAKER_00]: What is my relationship to self?
01:20.280 --> 01:22.222
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is fun because we can talk about new things.
01:22.343 --> 01:30.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, we love talking about these pieces of strange history and culture, but it's nice to kind of get some new takes and things that people are watching.
01:30.093 --> 01:32.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Things are in the zeitgeist right now.
01:32.476 --> 01:35.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if that word means.
01:35.020 --> 01:52.573
[SPEAKER_01]: really I don't I think I do but then I don't and also what is fracking fracking is bad no fracking right that's how it knows it's no fracking it's no fracking it's bad bad fracking and it's good yeah but can we be can we say guys thing
01:52.553 --> 01:55.998
[SPEAKER_01]: We are like right now is like guys, okay, we're in it.
01:56.138 --> 01:56.519
[SPEAKER_00]: We're in it.
01:56.539 --> 02:01.266
[SPEAKER_00]: The cultural land like the zeitgeist is like the cultural landscape Right, it's in the the moment.
02:01.286 --> 02:02.869
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're in that for sure.
02:02.889 --> 02:10.741
[SPEAKER_00]: We're very we're fracking in the zeitgeist Oh, that's bad Fuck fracking.
02:10.941 --> 02:11.602
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're saying fuck in this thing Yeah, I guess so we're now we are now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not safe for work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know
02:20.195 --> 02:34.131
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll talk about topics that are where we've been dealing with in the internet culture, you know, TV culture, historic stuff that maybe we've talked about before and that there are new pieces too.
02:34.151 --> 02:35.853
[SPEAKER_01]: There's always nostalgia.
02:36.073 --> 02:46.185
[SPEAKER_01]: There's always things bubbling up to the surface and people are discovering and rediscovering and we can always, and we're also probably reminded about a lot of things too and we can talk about that.
02:46.165 --> 02:47.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that.
02:47.167 --> 02:48.970
[SPEAKER_00]: I like a little, a little true crime.
02:49.030 --> 02:49.390
[SPEAKER_00]: All of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all here on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So today, though, I have to talk about something that has been on my feed near constantly, the last good year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know the last good year 2016 nostalgia,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm familiar with it and what, when I think, you know, I love years.
03:10.588 --> 03:15.735
[SPEAKER_01]: I love hearing a year and being like, oh, what do I think about this year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're your head, you're a big year head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2016 for me, I was, it was probably, I was on the tail end of my kind of YouTube life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So 2016 is probably the lead, like, is the year that that started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hitting a downturn and probably when my like improv comedy career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I call it a career was also all darker than like the election.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was in a lot of ways like the end of like a cycle for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize it until like 2016 ended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is whatever I'm doing is on its way out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was also the dawn of ghost town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The year after, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We sort of 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was of 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two years before the dawn of ghost town because I don't work because it was 2016 was a big and I was in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like maybe we were talking about the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very early stages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pre-productive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like late stage capitalism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's late to say that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want fracking in late-stage capitalism is in the zeitgeist for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I've had an aneurysm right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know 2016 I was like limping that last like death throws of a bad relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in New York coming back to LA, you know like feeling like shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell between my legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where were you improv wise because that's what I care about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, let's make sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just standing here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting paid to do stand up and you were crazy and then it all stuff and I was like, I have no reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't make it in New York making $400 a week doing stand up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I made $50 doing stand up and I went, I went four hours each way to make that $50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to, when I say, doing stand up in New York, I mean, doing stand up in Philly, okay, and New Jersey, and like the external realms of New York City, so not even like, you know, a club in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it was a beautiful time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Politically not great a lot of things are happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I see this trend on I'm like what the I was just like fuck all like honestly This is like the slap that I'm like I don't want to see your like blur reef at least if I'm gonna see a blurry photo It should be like 98 like don't give me 2016.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very in your like long You know like the trends were not cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like not a cute time
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we take for granted like technology as far as like photos on phones and it's like that how much better it's gotten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes, so many things have gotten worse, but when you take a picture in your phone with 2016, you're like, oh, how good is this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't realize how bad it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we take photos with our phones now, which is as best as it's ever been, in a year, two years like, oh, remember those, remember those 20, 26 photos we took?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of crazy to think about 10 years going by and how we capture things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, how people re-share them, mostly on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, when somebody shows a Facebook memory and it's always as horrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there was one that I had, and this is probably around 2016,
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm good ramen, it's the blur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a big Hollywood big me big things coming no things turns out no things coming no no It's like oh my god the song you're sure a lot of additions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah When you're a lot of like meetings or like funny things like think or funny and they're not they're not funny It's like crazy if you're if you're not lame Yeah, see slim Ricky my improbrew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I West Mainstay
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I it was so important and I said and I was trying to be so Who cares, but I was like I cared so much and it oozed out like the not caring back then was I care It was that's the thing I get what the 2016 last good year is so like
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[SPEAKER_00]: powerful to us because it was like this, you know, political like before this whole new era and like how fraud it's been But it's also like it's so earnest in a way where I'm just like all was that even me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't even know that was the right same person was that even my year to have?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the year law law land came out, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a great, I mean, it's one of my favorite movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw this in a yet, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think it will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime I get a chance to mention law law land to Rebecca, I will mention it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will use 2016.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, oh, in 2016, I was in Zurich, Switzerland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry not sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, are we back in time?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how that's how that's how the tail end of doing cool things I was because that's the that was the end of that era for me Like getting to travel and stuff for like YouTube and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean Was it a time full of hope perhaps and travel for you not so much for me because I was broke because I was just doing stand-up and living off of unemployment in New York City
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess there's a, I have a T to it, there's like, you know, a fun, listen, there's a lot of bad things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Pokemon Go was happening then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brexit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a Syrian war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All good things, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poke mine go definitely fits in that world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people wandering around the streets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was safe to wander around the streets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Head buried in your phone playing Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, my brother still plays Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, is that saying something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That nostalgia sloppin' up for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that an obsession for this year that will remain unquenched?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is going away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This trend is leaving us now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see as many anymore, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think mostly people when they do that, they want to, it's kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look how much better is now for me, or look at me then, or look at me now, and it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's better than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people are like, we're so nostalgia upset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look at this podcast, for example, an nostalgia obsessed that will do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even in a year where it's like, oh, it's an election year, which I think a lot of people collectively remember more powerfully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, and I think this is kind of why this trend isn't like, hey, 2017 or, you know, 2015 or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that we want so badly to romanticize, literally anything about our lives, and now we have the photo, you know, we have all these shitty ramen photographs to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And 2017 is great because that was one year after La La Land came close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, and a year and a half before we started this with podcasts, you know that now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No way we started this podcast, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all a blur.
